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Knitter Chat Backchannel Transcript
Here is the transcript for the backchannel chat performed during the Cracking the "Native Information Experience session in Edmonton, Canada.
babaganouj (nc) 2009-06-17 13:24:24
welcome?
Clovis Muddybluster (NC) 2009-08-17 13:14:42
I look forward to reading your conversation...
theresa maylone (MI) 2009-09-23 13:48:47
bumped off website
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 09:44:58
New learning: The Mist of Life
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 09:45:55
to be a Master Learner should be the goal of ALL educators in the 21st Century
- The more I think about it the more I believe that this one idea beats any killer app. If learning were to become the core of our own definitions of ourselves, as teachers, then it would enable all kinds of advancement. -- DFW
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 09:46:35
it's ok to say: "I don't know...but I can learn and I can find out!"
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 09:47:50
Cl
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 09:48:36
Clay Shirky: Here Comes Everybody
- He also has some interesting things to say about cognative surplus -- how we spend our excess attention these days. In the 60s and 70s, it was sitcoms. -- DFW
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 09:49:08
Shirky: Young child looking behind the TV for the mouse! Very telling!
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 09:58:31
Sharing information digitally (ie. presentation handouts, etc.) would be a compelling way to share information with students...
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:00:09
"we learn through conversations"
sandra (AB) 2009-11-06 10:00:42
Have the students help gather the content for learning
Anton (ED) 2009-11-06 10:04:50
21st Century teacher must be a master learner...hunt for the answers...expand your knowledge everyday
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:05:07
Hello
Angela (CA) 2009-11-06 10:05:45
This is a really cool idea!
- It's been very useful to me. I have never done this that I didn't learn something new from going back, reading, and responding. -- DFW
kat (NC) 2009-11-06 10:06:07
Est-ce qu'il y a quelqu'un ici qui parle francais??
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:06:57
Cylons are invading
Angela (CA) 2009-11-06 10:07:07
Oui je parle fracais un pea. Ma vocabulaire est tres petite, mais j'essaie!
- OK, Y'all are just showing off... -- DFW
Bryan (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:07:17
I wish everyone had a computer to use today.
- Yes, though not everyone does this. Not everyone can shift task in a way that makes it possible. The value added, I think, is that the conversation of some becomes available to all -- including what we can insert back in. -- DFW
Louise Osland (cn) 2009-11-06 10:07:20
What a unique experience to be sharing with so many people.
- The thing is, that this is not at all unique for many of our students. They share this way every day. They are constantly engaged in this kind of conversation. -- DFW
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:07:26
What the frack?
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:07:38
my computer does not work
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:08:04
interesting
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:08:22
welcome everyone
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:08:24
And they say that the geek shall inherit the Earth...
Carm (AB) 2009-11-06 10:08:30
okay...
Ashley Young (AB) 2009-11-06 10:08:55
The internet is extremely slow:(
- It was extremely slow. This is often the case in hotels -- and you'd be shocked at how much they usually charge for it. -- DFW
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:09:01
You rock kay. So say we all
Angela (CA) 2009-11-06 10:09:06
Hey Dehaan, nice to see an old colleague here. I agree-so important to say "i don't know, but can find out..."
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 10:09:13
you have to be add to od all this
Bryan (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:09:28
Oui je parle francais aussi! Un peu
- If I wasn't 37,000 feet above the planet, I'd be translating this with Google. -- DFW
Fern (AB) 2009-11-06 10:10:13
How do we address the question, "I don't have time to learn this stuff?" as a teacher. I don't even have time to stay on top of my email, let alone Web 2.0 technologies.
- It's a common claim and it is true. The lack of time is the great tragedy of education today, that we probably have less time for professional planning than my teachers had in the 50s and 60s. Yet, planning, collaboration, professional development, communication, research... these are all a huge part of being a teacher today.But to answer the questions, I'd have to say, "Find a way!" It is necessary if you are doing your job as a 21st century teacher. I think that you also have to say to your school and district leadership -- I am spending this many hours a day in professional planning and development, and it is not right nor fair that I am doing it at the expense of my family. -- DFW
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 10:10:13
How much time do people spend 'playing' rather than 'doing' or 'learning' with their avatar life or twitter or knitting sweaters...?
- This is an excellent question. As I spend very little time in Second Life, I don't know. But I suspect that a lot of times "play" and "learning" are happening at the same time. I think that this is especially the case with many of our students. -- DFW
Louise Osland (cn) 2009-11-06 10:10:21
How do we get students out of the "rows"!!!!
- Hard for me to answer, except that the goal should be to have time facing each other more, and facing us less. Rework assignments so that they are required to share their learning with each other. -- DFW
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:10:24
Hey Angela, nice to know you are here! It's been a long time, eh?
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:10:42
nice looking crowd
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:10:42
I would think a lot of time would be spent playing
- I spend very little time playing on the computer. But much of the work that I do is fun... -- DFW
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:11:00
Is that Bryan from red deer?
earl (ab) 2009-11-06 10:11:02
we need to redesign our new schools to accomodate the rowless idea
- The UK has demanded that school reinvent themselves. Some new high schools are being designed to resemble malls more than schools. Students have their assignments/projects, and the spend much of the time in coffee house style places collaborating. Not going to be an easy transition, even for students who are accustomed to being taught too, especially those who have learned how to play that game well. -- DFW
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:11:18
It's easy to play on Second Life--too many distractions! : )
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:11:42
Louise - try having people in groups or pods, desks in groups of 4
- Check out where people like to work. Visit some Starbucks. Visit some innovative work spaces. -- DFW
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 10:11:48
What is the purpose of learning a little about EVERYTHING, and not focus on excelling at ANYTHING?
- Yes! Yes! Yes! But learning a little about everything is important, when it is intended to give all of us a common context or frame of reference. The deep stuff should be more personal, however. I'd love to see students spending more time making themselve experts. If I was still teaching history, at the beginning of the semester I would assign each student to make him- or herself an expert on some person, event, or concept of the course, so that I could call on them at any time to share that perspective. "Sally, how do you think Abraham Lincoln would have responded to the threat of German aggression in Europe?" "Why?" -- DFW
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:11:59
kat do you speak french?
Crystal (CN) 2009-11-06 10:12:24
I can't believe that I am actually learning how to do this!!!!!!!
- I'm impressed too... -- DFW
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:12:32
High-speed wireless internet is becoming to be an expectation...
- I read the other day about a recent keynote delivered by the CEO of Google. He said that because of the increased speed and ubiquity of the Internet, it is going to be an entirely different animal five years from now. -- DFW
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:12:42
Sid, your right- online hand outs for students are great - using google with my classes
- Yes! And there are so many ways to do it. -- DFW
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 10:12:43
Kids are going to be good at using all this technology... What do they REALLY need to learn? Truly, what happens if servers go down for days, weeks, months?
- They'll figure it out. We were without electricity for two weeks when Hurricane Fran came through. We couldn't even leave the neighborhood because of all the downed trees. Had to walk to the grocery stores, where employees walked us around with flash lights. We made do. Humans can do that. -- DFW
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:13:06
They love it and so to I.
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:13:26
Subliminal
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 10:13:33
coolavatar you have an awesome point. we are all unique and have giv
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:13:35
you just need to be able to show how to teach it and use it properly
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:13:39
Testing again!
Ashley Young (AB) 2009-11-06 10:15:44
I think that we are to teach them to by literate in all that we can, and most importantly we need to teach problem solving. This is essential since we are preparing students for jobs that don't even exist yet!
- I think that this is write, though I suspect that we need to stop saying that we need to "teach" problem solving." It's like teaching creativity. If you can teach it, is it creative? We have to help them develop the skills by challenging to accomplish things through resourcefulness. It's easy. "I want y'all to produce a presentation deck that convinces the audience of <this>, but you can only use images. No text." Challenge them to be resourceful by limiting their options. -- DFW
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:15:46
can you read this now?
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:15:54
paperless classrooms.....me likey...
- A while back a director of technology in Ontario asked how he could improve the use of technology in his district and he comminced to tell me about all of the stuff they had, including a rediculous number of printers. I said, "Throw out all of your printers."'Actually the thing about paperlessness is interesting. Might we get further if we simply said to every teacher and student, "No more paper." -- DFW''
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:16:04
I put together a class blog. Took me 5 min. Check out blogger.com. Have students respond to questions, review books, etc. Great site!
- Wordpress.com and Edublogs.com are also easy and free -- DFW
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 10:16:05
Of course students love technology and yes, so do I. However, at what point does the technology glamour wear off?
- Good question -- and I would say that when the glamour wears off is where it starts getting interesting. Actually, the kids don't care about technology -- in my opinion. Alan Kay says that "Technology is anything that was invented after you were born." It's technology to us. It's just stuff to the kids. They don't spend time with their phones because the love their phones. The spend time with mobile phones because it's where their friends are. -- DFW
samiam (C) 2009-11-06 10:16:18
pretty cool tool
Angela (CA) 2009-11-06 10:16:24
i'm allergic to paper.
Carla (AB) 2009-11-06 10:16:27
I heart iPods
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:16:45
Crystal, I feel like an old dog doing a new trick
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 10:16:48
love skype
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:16:54
the glaomour will NEVER wear off.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:17:03
Coolavatar--It will never wear off.
Bg (Ca) 2009-11-06 10:17:27
Hey Carla 1<3 iPhone.
Ali (AB) 2009-11-06 10:17:29
My nose is itchy
sandra (AB) 2009-11-06 10:17:40
it can't be about the technology
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:17:42
this technology will wear off, but a new one will pop up fast and replace it, just like everything else
- But it isn't about the glamour. Kids don't love blogging because it's cool. They love blogging because it's about communication -- and communication is real. As I said, classmates read each other writings. Teachers measure it. -- DFW
Carla (AB) 2009-11-06 10:18:13
Sorry Bev. <3. I've been told.
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:18:18
and I will have just learned how to use this tech
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 10:18:25
Ashley is right - problem solving is key. Metacognition is key. What I'm saying 'Geek' is that a ball point pen and the basic camera were once novel.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:18:41
I can't wait until a get a chip implanted in my brain!
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:19:24
Kay- I've had a class of 1:1 wiress for three year- the glamor wore off
- Grundy, some pretty smart people have suggested that its when the glamor wears off that the applications become more creative. -- DFW
Bg (Ca) 2009-11-06 10:19:35
It's the first time I used <3. LOL. I remember when I had to ask what it meant. LOL
earl (ab) 2009-11-06 10:19:55
i think he is preaching to the choir, but how do we get this message across to those afraid of the technology.
- Yet, and I worry about this. But I go to conferences not necessarily to learn new things, though that certainly happens. I got to conferences to learn new language -- to learn new ways to talk about this and new stories. I go to be taught how to sing. -- DFW
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 10:20:05
It has to be about the design. It has to be about students discriminately using technology to create and make sound, researched judgement.
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:20:07
I need that kind of GPS
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:20:18
But after the glamor wore off- the learning continued and went deeper
Bryan (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:20:43
Initially I Agee. They may play a lot, but I think we'd see a quick shift to engaged learning.
- With access to this sort of backchanneling, many kids would almost certainly abuse it. But that is to be expected. They experiment. But it would soon settle into just something that they do as part of the classroom learning experience. -- DFW
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:20:46
If the glamour wore off, then you weren't using it to its full potential.
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:20:52
Anyone thinking that funding is an issue?
- Yes! But this may be callus, but that's not our problem. Funding is an issue, but there is no choice about retooling classrooms and connecting them to the contemporary information landscape. No choice, unless preparing children for the 1950s is what we want. Funding is our elected officials jobs. They need to figure out a way. That's their jobs, no ours. -- DFW
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 10:20:56
Those that are 'afraid' need to adapt or fade away. The current and next generation will seamlessly integrate technologies.
- Adap or quit. No excusses... -- DFW
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:21:06
Amen! We are not preparing children for OUR future...we are preparing them for theirs!
Angela (CA) 2009-11-06 10:21:24
Top get thru to those afraid...be a positive optimistic role model, show the possibilities, and many will come around
- Again, no excusses. Show them, but don't think it's your job to convince them. We should expect it -- not try to convince them. -- DFW
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:21:26
Agree-Coolavatar
Carla (AB) 2009-11-06 10:21:29
Well said Sid
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:21:55
Perhaps.... I think I am, but tech is a tool a pencil... Pencils shouldn't be gla
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 10:22:09
The glamour has worn off. Technology is JUST part of my life. Now, what am I going to do with it - the big question.
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:22:12
we have grown up with the technology and have been learning it throughout our education, especially in our uni now
- I think that our students need to become part of this conversation. I am going to start suggesting that students be invited to these things. -- DFW
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:22:48
I agree Angela. We need to model the appropriate ways to use - and more importantly - to LEARN with tech. Tech itself is irrelevant
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:23:21
I agree as well. Good point
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:23:22
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Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:23:22
Totally agree Sid
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:23:22
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Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:23:23
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Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:23:23
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Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:23:24
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Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:23:25
yea we just need to know how to teach with the technology of the time
- Again, I'll reword a very good statement. "We need to know how to help our students learn with contemporary information and communication technology." -- DFW
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:24:11
where
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:24:21
Sorry bout that...technological difficulties...
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:24:22
Sid is hot
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:24:23
WHAT DOES <3 MEAN ?????
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:24:43
It's a heart Robbie
- I didn't know that ;-) -- DFW
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:25:00
awww how sweet
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:25:05
Yeah,
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:25:38
<3 is heart
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 10:25:44
walmart yuck
- Agreed. They are distroying many small communities in the U.S. -- DFW
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:26:04
what is wrong with the Oilers?
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:26:08
Scimann loves this presentation!
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:26:11
I'll never look at a UPS truck the same way again
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:26:17
no <3
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:26:37
The irritating thing I have noticed when marking exams--some students throw in the occasional 'LOL' and webspeak. I tell them it's an instant fail! : )
- Why an instant failure. That dosn't make sense. If it's inappropriate, do they now why. Frankly, I think that they have invented a new grammar that is perfect for an avenue of communication that is almost certainly going to be a part of their future. Our job is not to teach them, "Write like this!" "Don't write like this." Our job is to help them learn to communicate and to decise when IM-Speak (my term) is appropriate and when proper English is appropriate. We have to respect their the grammar of the mobile network if we expect them to respect the grammar of the complete idea. -- DFW
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:27:08
ROFL is even better
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:27:10
Will putting money I the stim subjects really going to hange things?
- It depends on if the money is spent to improve teaching or to improve learning. -- DFW
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:27:20
why a fail?
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:27:56
Are there other Spanish teachers here?
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:28:04
Hi
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:28:08
Looking to network
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:28:11
That's the other thing...tone is difficult to perceive in text.
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:28:14
Web speak is this language- English even...
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:28:14
Yes,
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:28:15
translation for ROFL
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:28:25
I know one but he has no computer
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:28:32
ROFL = Rolling on floor laughing
Crystal (CN) 2009-11-06 10:28:44
So is the use of technology right or left brain?
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:28:54
senorita... helloooo !!!!!!!
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:28:57
both
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:28:59
Would love to meet him/her during our break
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:29:09
Hi Robbie!
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:29:23
Is using a pencil left brain or right brain?
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:29:25
who is 'him' are you cheating on me already?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:29:27
It may not be for the right audiance, but it's not a fail o. Any rubric
jrs (AB) 2009-11-06 10:29:34
sally, flu bug = weak players = loss after loss
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:29:36
I'm not sure where or who you are so how do we connect?
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:29:38
hahaha
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:29:47
Err... On any rubri C
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:29:59
I <3 you senorita. a sense of humour
Ali (AB) 2009-11-06 10:30:00
I don't agree that failing a paper is based on using a slang abbreviation/webspeak
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:30:04
Technology 'wow' mmo
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:30:04
J
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:30:21
I hate rubrics we have to stop defining kids work by these!!!
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:30:33
JRS should have got the flu shot like the flames
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:30:40
Technology 'WOW" moment for me...my three year old daughter playing LEGO rock band yesterday...
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:30:43
mmo????
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:31:03
fail is a copout -communicate that it needs to be changed
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:31:11
we can meet where we registered
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:31:12
mmo is role playing game
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:31:35
: ) at the end of a statement=means 'I am joking'
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:31:38
The left side of your brain also does math, talks, spells, reads, likes to play alone, does one thing at a time, asks why, and asks how.
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:31:39
I agree... But I'm jus saying the webspeak should be aauto fail by any measure
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:31:50
lyle u r such a techno geek
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:31:57
i am learning so much with you guys!
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:31:57
mmo - Massively Multiplayer Online (usually MMORPG - Role Playing Game)
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:32:08
This
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:32:42
sure we can senorita. are you wearing a sombrero?
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:32:44
IMO-in my opinion
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:33:01
except on reruns
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:33:15
Warlick is using PREZI for his presentation....too cool!
- I learned about Prezi from a high school kid who was backchanneling a class in Colorado I'd been invited to monitor. Daniel Pink was the guest speak via Skype... -- DFW
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:33:30
My students make PAC man movies in vis com
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:33:31
PREZI ????
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:33:35
i can make one out of paper!
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:33:39
senorita -- could you use something like Knitter in the classroom to help your students learn?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:33:44
Yea Prezi is the best form of popwerpoint style presentations
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:33:53
Prezi.com. Check it out
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:34:03
http://prezi.com/
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:34:09
PREZI.com....a presentation creating website
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:34:10
cool
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:34:12
i teach Gr. 1 Spanish bilingual
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:34:13
please make one. i need to recognize my future bride.. are you a female?
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:34:23
they are a pretty smart group
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:34:34
so i'm sure i can
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:34:50
i think that would be cool
Sherry (Ca) 2009-11-06 10:35:05
Fine arts! I was waiting for a comment like that!
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:35:17
they'd pick it up in 5 minutes
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:35:36
yo sally nice to see you?
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:35:39
yeh, but what is happening to this generation`s interpersonal skills
- Research indicates that the video game generation is more socialable tan the previous generation -- face-to-face and online. -- DFW
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:35:59
Google chat would work... It's a part of EPSB share
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:36:07
they are faiding away
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:36:18
isn't communicating w/texting an interpersonal skill?
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:36:24
Hey Robbie, going to the lounge after the session?
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:36:30
Miss - - It all comes down to moderation, I believe.
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:36:33
i
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:36:34
maybe at lunch
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:36:35
we were having the interpersonal conversation too!
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:36:37
I don't think they're fading, but they are drastically changing
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:36:53
s it really
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:36:54
agreed Grundy
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:36:55
Robbie stand up and stretch
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:36:57
kids sit and text rather than talking to a living person beside them
- They actually do both at the same time -- DFW
earl (ab) 2009-11-06 10:37:14
It's like everything - seeking a balance
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:37:15
i am laughing too hard
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:37:18
But they're still co
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:37:19
Unc
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:37:22
something wrong with that
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:37:32
but think, how many business meetings now adays are in person? Not many, usually video conferenced now
- Even when they are face-to-face, there is some form of backchanneling going on. But that's not the point. We are a social species. We will also demand contact with other people. -- DFW
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:37:39
But they're still co
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:37:50
Robbie that might be an idea, and yes you should stand and stretch.
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:38:00
I beg to differ on the video conference bit
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:38:07
Has anyone seen the movie -Gamer-? It's about 'tech going too far'...!
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:38:08
adults have learned the texting thing too. very impersonal.
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:38:33
Darn phone.... They're still communicating.... It some ways more then before
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:38:44
sally you stand with me so my senorita can see we are only friends
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:38:59
how have adults learned it? how have kids learned it? who is educating them?
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:39:19
i am looking for you two!
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:39:23
the culture of media
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:39:26
can we criticize people if no one has modelled or taught appropriate behaviors?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:39:27
it is almost a necessity for some kids to do it so they can communicate to their friends
Ashley Young (AB) 2009-11-06 10:39:40
How do I learn most technologies?
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:39:44
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Ashley Young (AB) 2009-11-06 10:39:52
I learned by experimentation
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:39:52
We/they learn by doing and living.... True athentic learning
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:40:03
as some that is all they know what to do is text, not write properly, or pick up a phone and call, it is all texting these days
- Are they writing any less than we did because they are texting? Or are they writing more? -- DFW
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:40:26
I have noticed if I don't use my laptop for a day or two, I get the "shakes"...
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:40:27
Oops! Lifeskills like having to break up in person is important too!
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:40:41
Hey Ashley you sound rowdy. Join us at the lounge at lunch
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:40:51
Addictive................
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 10:40:58
i absolutely will not learn how to text...too impersonla and rude
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:41:11
ashley? what about senorita? sally help me.....
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:41:16
I never said it was a good way to communicate, it just different. It's theirs
xxx
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:41:49
robbie, I will keep my eyes peeled for Senorita
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:41:52
Angela... Aren't you basically texting now?
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:42:02
thanks sally...
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:42:06
people used to write letters...is that impersonal? then it want to emails, is that impersonal? now it is facebook and texting
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:42:16
agree
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:42:31
i think there is a place for texting, but maybe we need to start educating students (adults?) when and where it is approprate
Julia Gulia (AB) 2009-11-06 10:42:36
yes, it is still impersonal
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:42:38
it is just a faster way to communicate
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:42:41
rules
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 10:43:09
i was referring more to phone texting... can we put down our phones and blkberrys long enough to actaully TALK
Fern (AB) 2009-11-06 10:43:09
where do print books have a place....or do they in a digital world?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:43:21
Agreed Sid. But we can't just discount a method of communication because it's not ours
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:43:23
texting and emails arevery impersonal.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:43:29
I hate twitter.
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:43:34
yea and that is something that we need to look at is to teach the PROPER and the TIME to use it
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:43:43
this is fun. i can see the addiction
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:43:47
i agree
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:43:48
good point aboutthe letter lyle
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:44:01
but we definitely need to teach the "old" literacy skills too - now more than ever!
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:44:09
and maybe i met my spanish bride too <3 lol
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:44:11
Are novels and letters from mom impersonal? It's all text just like txting
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:44:17
facebook is LAME...and pointless...follow friends by talking with them, follow thinkers by reading their twitter
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:44:37
Geek, you don't know what you're talking about.
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:44:37
incorrect. novels and letters are written with thought and depth. are texts?????
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:44:54
Who are you Geek? Fight after the conference.
Alison (AB) 2009-11-06 10:45:03
fight??
Julia Gulia (AB) 2009-11-06 10:45:06
texting is waaaay different than writing a letter. Do kids even think about what they've texted before they hastily send it off?
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:45:08
let`s not confuse friends with contacts on social networking sites
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:45:11
KAT, twitter me, then we'll talk.
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:45:17
Depends on the txt.... Romance novels? The national enquirer?
Ashley Young (AB) 2009-11-06 10:45:34
I think that texting is for short quick communication. It is not meant for building relationships, and having deep conversations
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:45:56
Meet me outside. I'll show you my right face-book.
Julia Gulia (AB) 2009-11-06 10:46:00
but that's how kids are using it!
Glenda (AB) 2009-11-06 10:46:06
Its about being connected 24/7
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 10:46:10
there is something wonderful about a handwritten letter...tangible and able to keep forever
Ali (AB) 2009-11-06 10:46:29
you can keep anything written forever
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:46:29
i like both! texting and letters
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:46:29
Most of our conversations in relationships are short spoken snippets...
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 10:46:34
what kind of program is david working with
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:46:38
agree with angela
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:46:40
OK kids no WWF oops WWE
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:46:52
There's aplace for everything....
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:46:52
http://prezi.com/ is the presentation site
Julia Gulia (AB) 2009-11-06 10:47:12
yes, but there's a difference when it is short face to face communication. Too much is lost via texting
adrienne (ab) 2009-11-06 10:47:18
<3
Ali (AB) 2009-11-06 10:47:36
what is lost via texting?
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:47:36
As long as it's Turkish wrestling
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:47:38
same could be said for email
adrienne (ab) 2009-11-06 10:47:58
I agree!
Ali (AB) 2009-11-06 10:47:59
How is texting different from emails? They are just shorter letters.
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:48:02
Can't meet...I am working on Farmville (wow...a not COOL app on FACEBOOK)
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:48:19
my computer crapped out...senorita i miss you
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:48:41
i'm trying to follow David
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:48:43
Well....I agree with you on the Farmville app. Maybe we can be friends after all.
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:48:55
multitasking is hard!
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:49:33
My best wishes to Robbie and Senorita!
NL AB JW DM (AC) 2009-11-06 10:49:45
life is not virtual - there is real consequences/rewards
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:49:49
Ditto
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:50:10
I find lotsof my students know how to use the toys of tech but not the tools
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 10:50:10
I accept your apology Kat. GO TWITTEr Go
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:50:18
What are the implications of student's familiarity w/online games on how we help them learn in the classroom?
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:50:41
Senorita, Robbie's computer won't let him type
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:50:42
we need it. my fridns think we might be on the rocks already
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:50:45
And what happens virtually can have real world consequences... We have to teach that
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:51:00
my kids call me seρorita but i'm a seρora
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:51:09
Could you imagine having this tech in junior high
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:51:21
we might need luck. my frinds think we are on the rocks already.
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:51:21
miss - is that because they have never been taught how to use tech for learning?
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:51:33
senorita, Robbie's computer will not let him type
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:52:17
what is the difference? senora = married?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:52:21
Battle star- do you mean chatting?
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:52:23
deehan- i think so, we have to teach them thetool parts
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:52:34
Geek, you are such a 'tweet'.
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:52:51
ethics in the digital world...critically absent from what is taught in most classrooms
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:52:55
i have a feeling that senora may mean married :-(
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:53:14
In terms of autonomy--have a few students become moderators. It gives them a sense of responsibility.
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:53:36
I think kids like that they can ask any questions without being labeled stupid
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:53:48
Sadly most classrooms are afraid of tech, and try to protect our students fro
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:54:14
is he sq
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 10:54:44
i agree grundy
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:55:17
yes the chatting I had a hard enough time learning trying to pass paper notes. I don't think I have heard a word David has said since going to knitter
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:55:43
i am so engaged .....this is outstanding.....
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:55:47
i hear half
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:56:03
or was that engaged to be married ....robbie?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:56:13
yea I think I am missing alot
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 10:56:16
what did he just say???I too have not been listening
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:56:17
I wouldn't/don't use chatting during instruction, but during colander work time
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:56:20
sally you are engaged too? any singles here?
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:56:23
Battlestar--Me too!
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:56:28
we`re all focused though how do you keep kids on topic
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:56:40
I've don't I it elem and junior high
Crystal (CN) 2009-11-06 10:56:46
I'm not sure if educators are afraid of tech - funding is a huge issue. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone here had a laptop?
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:57:16
think those without are missing the whole undercurrent convertation
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:57:19
We are NOT all focused.... so if it's ok for us, why not the kids?
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 10:57:25
we could use toilet paper in our school
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:57:31
totally agree crystal...it is all about funds to supply the tech to the schools to use
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:57:51
I am more concerned with kay getting along with geek and robbie hooking up with seρorita at this point
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 10:57:53
true im focused in and out i hope there is not a tes at the end
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 10:58:10
Virtual, interactive field trips across all curricular subjects - anyone have 500m $ to lend me?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:58:22
Student owned devices have huge potential. Doing this on an iPhone
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 10:58:23
money, money, money, we will never have enoughb to equip all students with the needed hardware - too bad the gov't doesn't see the need
Glenda (AB) 2009-11-06 10:58:30
funding is an issue so is parent support
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:58:47
A class set of itouches are more affordable
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 10:58:51
what is 4 lunch?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 10:59:02
yea most students might be able to use their phones to access some of the tech as well
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 10:59:35
school district in Oklahoma last week provided every student in gr 3 -12 w/ an iTouch
Glenda (AB) 2009-11-06 10:59:38
still need wireless with an itouch
Tabby (AB) 2009-11-06 10:59:38
We need to remember not all families have the funds to have a computer in there home let alone a cell phone.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 10:59:41
Just busted Geek's nose--so no chance of that!
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 10:59:45
Microchips with virtual salsa.
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 10:59:49
In japan most acres to the 'net is done on phones
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:00:05
yea itouch would be great for that, much cheaper than a comp
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 11:00:24
have vs have not communities - those that have will bring iphones those that don't won't too bad
YEG (CA) 2009-11-06 11:00:46
Whatchaance do scools have of keeping up?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:00:55
I work in the "inner city"- a lot of our kids have acess to this type of tech
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:00:56
still the problem of the haves and the have nots
adrienne (ab) 2009-11-06 11:00:57
l33t 5p34l< 4 tl-l3 //I//
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 11:00:59
coolavartra, lololol
Fern (AB) 2009-11-06 11:01:08
If families can afford tech...then why do our newest immigrants seem to have a computer and phones versus furniture in their homes...from my conversations with ELL learners
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:01:16
We can then try to fill in the gaps
Glenda (AB) 2009-11-06 11:02:07
not all families are wanting to be "plugged in" even if they can afford it
Tabby (AB) 2009-11-06 11:02:09
Do they only access at school or at home?
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 11:02:26
ELL students families need access to information perhaps more than anyone. Not having it will widen the gap, no?
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 11:02:30
battery low. senora/ senorita... hope to meet ya
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:02:33
i have parents who said no to schoolzone
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:02:43
need to charge mine soon too
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 11:02:44
have to sign off ;-(
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:02:51
Most have both... Not all but most. Both home and school
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 11:02:55
we can create some energy
Glenda (AB) 2009-11-06 11:03:17
There are families out there who choose not to have technology including tv
Fern (AB) 2009-11-06 11:03:46
parents are terrified that their kids know more than them....the way to deal with it...is to limit kids' access to it...therefore you don't look like an idiot as a parent
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:03:52
so how do you reach those kids are they considered illiterate to 21st tech
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:03:54
isn't it break time? :)
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:03:55
So because so
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:04:15
interesting point fern
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:04:36
does that mean we need to teach the parents?
Glenda (AB) 2009-11-06 11:04:39
maybe it is more important that we reach them because they are not getting it at home
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:04:45
technology
Fern (AB) 2009-11-06 11:04:52
who says being connected is better for us than being disconnected..what is good for our personal health, social, physical, emotional?
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 11:04:52
Lyall, it has been a break for me all morning lol
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:04:52
fern not just parents but teachers too
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:04:53
hey senora i am on a new comp
Tabby (AB) 2009-11-06 11:04:55
We also have to look at the content that has been showen on tv.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:04:55
Professional development!
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:05:03
LOL
Glenda (AB) 2009-11-06 11:05:07
good luck teaching the parents :o)
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:05:25
stop laughing at me. i have a complex
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:05:32
We tech our students- the change will co
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:05:33
well that is the thing, once the parents age, the children will then usaully allow their children to use it as they will see it is needed
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:05:37
I am scared to think of what kids can access on the Internet when unmonitored. Think about the sites you go to and all you do is click a button that says u are over21
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:05:45
kids already know more than parents technologically speaking
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:05:49
When they are parents.... Look at smoking
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:06:08
baTTLESTAR YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:06:11
there are many good site blocking programs out there
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:06:29
Battlestar, that's why we have to teach them what to do and how to cope
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:06:34
batlestar- thats why we need to teach this to them-you tube can be a good tool not just funny videos
Angela (CA) 2009-11-06 11:06:51
We are living in the most amazing time in human history.
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:07:12
that is also why there are computer forms they sign, they break the rules, they will lose thier chance to work in that way
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:07:17
And to find the"good" stuff you have to look. It doesn't just pop up
adrienne (ab) 2009-11-06 11:07:37
5v5 west ours... Cal-M
Glenda (AB) 2009-11-06 11:07:43
its not about blocking, its about learning what is useful and what isn't
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:07:57
that's what i think glenda
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:08:07
I totally agree glenda
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:08:09
i agree with glenda
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:08:28
it is you have to teach morals, respect, and be respisible while being on the net
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:09:06
But we're not allowed to teach morals
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:09:29
Theorecticly
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:09:30
Sometimes once you see something there is no going back. What do you teach kids to prepare them for sites such as disfunction junction. Kids can literally watch murders now
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:09:37
well appropriate useage of the interent
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:09:38
devil`s advocate here - who needs morals when there is anonimity
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:09:59
that is true miss
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:10:07
true dat
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 11:10:13
I know I'm five minutes late... but just because content is being produced and 'published', doesn't mean it's useful. Lib. / net f of crap.
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:10:21
They watched murders with columbo back in the day...
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:10:35
But I agree, it's more graphing now
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:10:41
and he smoked an old cigar too
Glenda (AB) 2009-11-06 11:10:41
its been in books too
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 11:10:53
Even students making what we're watching. Whose music did they steal? When do we teach proprietary rights?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:11:21
But there's no true anonmity... You can be found...
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:11:24
I stole five albums last night alone
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:11:30
what about curriculum? just a thought
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 11:11:56
fair use laws around music in ed is different in US - much more liberal
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:12:04
Property rights are chaning though.... And many of these kids are adding value
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:12:10
curriculum for?
adrienne (ab) 2009-11-06 11:12:17
according to canadian law it isnt stealing
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 11:12:28
Good for you Battlestar! I hope you apprecitate the work that the artists put into the album! Can I come take your computer from your house?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:12:29
as long as you are not selling it
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:12:33
for profit
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:12:58
If you have a change, google 'Dwayne Harapniuk' and 'HHHMMM??? What does this button do? approach to learning'. He's a U of A professor that talks about removing fear from using technology.
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:13:07
Have a great lunch!
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:13:07
hey senora......
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:13:09
see you all after the break
BAttlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:13:16
I do just not enough to buy it
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 11:13:22
BTW - appropriate professional name Battlestar!
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 11:13:48
just like david said...our gen sees info as a product, kids see it as a raw material to be mixed
CoolAvatar13 (AB) 2009-11-06 11:14:58
There will be a point DeHaan, when there is little incentive to contribute / create without extrinsic rewards.
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:18:52
what happen when the internt goes down in your classroom?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:21:19
ummm you sit there and colour? :)
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:23:01
hi glenda riverdale buddy
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:23:45
lya
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:24:42
yes
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:24:54
lyall ihave anew laptop and colouring sounds great how about playing with marbleworks and big blocks
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:26:02
well that could work too
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:27:09
how can we bring this techno world in kindergarten where they need fine motor experiences
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:27:34
is handwriting a dying skill
Crystal (CN) 2009-11-06 11:27:59
handwriting is an art
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:28:59
there are some good games for fine motor skills on the wii
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:29:04
Lani--it's happened to me once before a presentation. And I had 3 back-ups, USB, CD, and email attachment. Nothing worked. Ended up working with handouts and a lot of hand gestures.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:29:37
And it went great!
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:30:08
could you all spell your words properly
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:30:47
never had to spell, now I dont have to with good old F7
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:30:47
kat, it sounds we always need to be prepared as usual
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:31:35
*never could spell, now don't have to as much with computers
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 11:32:06
so it goes down once in a while...does that mean its bad?
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:33:10
life happens
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:33:44
same as if your markers ran dry, your chalk was all out, ran out of paper, ran out of ink in the printer...
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:33:59
you learn to deal with it and move on
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:35:10
what`s with the maximum number of subscribers has been reached! I want in. Can someone fix that
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:35:32
well you are in here are you not?
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:36:02
thanks lyall. you will be an awesome teacher. you are awseome
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:36:05
no I`m using miss to speak my piece
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:37:27
:) thanks
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:38:10
Creativity co
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:38:17
Comes in all for
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:38:27
how many kindergraten teachers are there here?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:38:40
We can't stifle it in any form
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:38:57
Hey guys--let's all stand up at 11 am!
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:39:20
So did anyone hook up or fight at the break?
sandra (AB) 2009-11-06 11:39:22
creative 'inventiveness'
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:39:24
why?
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:39:49
who is monitoring this - I would like to get on and it is telling me maximum subscription is reached
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:39:58
hey senorita. i miss u
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:40:03
i couldn't send messages
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:40:03
Bas
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:40:11
looks like its working now
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:40:17
Oops.
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 11:41:00
a local highschool is using Youtube and Facebook to raise money for Right to Play, look for I've Gotta Feeling and Scona on Youtube
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:41:11
A little bit of both, Battlestar!
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:41:47
took a while for everything to pop up
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 11:41:57
being literate = asking questions about the information you find. great point.
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 11:42:19
how do I distinguish the good from the junk?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:42:57
who has their ringer still on?
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:43:12
hey senorita i looked for ya at the break where were u?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:43:37
I love using this site to teach this lesson to my students... The get outraged
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:43:40
Ahh, Robbie...unrequited love...!
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:43:41
i was charging my battery and trying to fix the problem
Kathy Toogood (AB) 2009-11-06 11:43:45
Does anyone have a power cord for a hp pavilion laptop?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:44:11
being literate doesnt mean to be able to read only paper, it does mean can they decipher writting no matter what source it is on
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:44:12
hey can i borrow your charger? i am on someon else's comp. u mean a lot to me
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:44:15
are we all meeting at the lounge afterwards?
CoolAvatar13 () 2009-11-06 11:44:28
We don't live in a post-modern world. That's an oxymoron. Relativity = nihilism = valueless world.
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:44:58
senorita ... can mean single i learned. i am always looking to be educated
CoolAvatar13 () 2009-11-06 11:45:42
De haan - what Warlick is doing right now is an important skill. Moreover, we can JUDGE = HOTS so that everything doesn't just mean nothing.
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:45:43
we have a strong responsibility to teach our youngsters to be literate on the net
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:45:43
The Internet is a loaded weapon, we need to teach the kids how to use it safely
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:46:02
amen to that grundy
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:46:34
For sure, we want them to be literate
CoolAvatar13 () 2009-11-06 11:46:46
We can't just 'CELEBRATE' everytime a student goes the bathroom. Wiki? I guess universities and thorough research is obsolete.
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 11:46:54
Coolavatar = agreed. But we also need to teach our students how to judge
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:46:59
I am all for teaching my kids how to be net/tech literate
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 11:47:07
good video clip for elementary is concerned childrens advertisers house hippo commercial
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:47:28
teach me too senorita. i need to learn tech
CoolAvatar13 () 2009-11-06 11:47:32
Senorita - SO important!
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:47:49
Anyone read the final lecture? Randy talks about how world book may be flawed
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 11:48:47
Impossible! Lol
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:49:43
Literacy=understanding and forming opinions based on facts
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:50:09
And on what your heart and mind tells you
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:50:16
sally senorita is ignoring me. what is your advice?
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 11:50:29
no im not..
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:50:42
Ready to stand up? Right when he lets us go for lunch!
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:50:47
she is concetrating on the session
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:50:57
I am doing my masters and I use wiki to access info. It's a great jumping off place for info
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 11:51:04
I have someone beside me typing on my computer Robbie
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:51:11
sally... i said senorita is ignoring me,,,, advise me.
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 11:51:35
THis is the real Sally. I would suggest you set up a meeting by the bran muffins
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:52:00
how romantic. nothing like a little bran and romance
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:52:05
i am trying to do both
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:52:11
type notes and chat
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:52:36
can i buy you a bran muffin?
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:52:48
sweet
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:52:49
Want raw data? Lots of great stuff on wolframalpha.com
CoolAvatar13 () 2009-11-06 11:52:59
Battlestar: Absolutely. A GREAT starting place. The challenge is to have students skim info. not celebrate b/c they found 'something'.
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:53:14
Agreed
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:53:48
Lava, awesome
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:54:21
We had that same problem with print resources too... Grab what you first find and go
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:54:57
Uh oh.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:55:08
There goes the presentation
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:55:34
Nice recovery
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 11:55:50
staged...sorry Kat
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:56:22
The man's a true professional- nothing stands in his way
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 11:56:29
oh no.. low battery on new computer too
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:56:37
a teachable moment for me
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:56:44
No sid... Say it ain't so!
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:56:44
Robbie-the fates are against you...!
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 11:56:56
whatis4lunch
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:57:26
I wonder how much of that went over everyones head?
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 11:57:35
Hope it's not more bran muffins...
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:57:35
i'm lost now
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 11:57:42
and hungry
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 11:59:10
Math and social together!
Glenda (AB) 2009-11-06 11:59:12
might be over my head but i think it is amazing
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 11:59:23
this is very cool but we still need to teach our elementary students what graphs are and numbers and how to use these technotools
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 11:59:38
yea it is a interesting thing to do
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:00:04
010001010001001"1010001010101010001010100010101000 10101010
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:00:12
But we could use this demo to start.... And div 2 students could do this
robbie (ab) 2009-11-06 12:00:13
bran will be my success to happiness kat
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:00:30
goodbye everyone!
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 12:00:36
robbie, there isn't a lot of lap tops here. start stalking.
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:00:40
my battery is almost gone
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 12:01:18
You may have more luck with oysters
Edmonton () 2009-11-06 12:01:38
Applicable and cool. Just noting with other teacher ok to scaffold and i.e webquest this
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 12:02:49
when would i use this?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:03:07
Wordle works too
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 12:03:35
that's right!
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:03:58
Have kids sum up a story, movie, lecture.... Then usenhis to pull out what the kids got out of it
adrienne (ab) 2009-11-06 12:04:02
HEY ...YEAH IM YELLING AT YA BATTLESTAR!!!!!!!
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 12:04:47
oh senorita charge it! how will we ever meet?
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 12:05:05
kat give her your power cord
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 12:06:18
Does she have the same laptop?
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:06:24
i'm back, i moved to a different table
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:06:44
Why are you yelling at me?
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:07:33
pretty cool, what he just did
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 12:07:44
wave at me
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 12:08:54
my bother made a cool album of music with similar programs and all the composing technology
adrienne (ab) 2009-11-06 12:09:17
Binary...?Really?
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 12:09:18
numbers i hate numbers never any good at math
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:09:50
Hehe. Do you know what it says?
adrienne (ab) 2009-11-06 12:09:56
There are only 10 types of people in the world those who understand binary and those who dont
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 12:10:30
hahaha
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 12:10:38
lol
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:10:45
Lmao
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 12:10:50
Not ten....2. There are 2 types of people in this world. Those who can write about those who know binary, and those who cannot :)
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 12:11:34
my brother was a tecnogeek long before 2000
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 12:12:23
Senorita, Robbie misses you. His battery is dead. Looks like mine is dying too.
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:13:02
you don't have powercords?
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 12:13:03
gotta love plugs.
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 12:13:11
I need to write a couple of best sellers.....quick
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:13:24
I charged up last night In anticipation for today. Half charge to go still
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:13:31
which side of the room are you guys sitting at sally?
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:14:04
Doesn't 10 mean 2?
adrienne (ab) 2009-11-06 12:14:30
oh battlestar... so funny!
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:15:15
Adrienne I like you even though you yelled at me!
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:15:32
If he doesn't reccomend lulu anymore... What does he reccomend? Cafepress?
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 12:15:50
Senorita, we are by the first entrance, at the back. With all the labtops closed accept mine, until it dies.
adrienne (ab) 2009-11-06 12:15:54
that was Gates!
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:16:13
i'm on the opposite end
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:16:25
are we meeting up at lunch time?
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 12:16:37
senortia, he is waving
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:16:46
I am going h
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 12:17:03
Nice wave
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 12:17:24
didnt know this would turn into a dating service...
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 12:17:27
grundy can you do children's picture books in this manner?
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:17:29
OMB did I miss a wave
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 12:17:32
We ALL saw that!
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:18:26
um, i was looking to meet other fellow teachers
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:18:42
i'm a second year teacher, looking forward to meeting other colleagues
Sally (ab) 2009-11-06 12:19:01
Senorita, robbie wants you to wave
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:19:10
That's her cover story
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:19:33
seriously, i said i was a seρora
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 12:19:50
All in good fun, senorita!
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:20:03
Hehehehe
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:20:11
you guys are great!
MNC (US) 2009-11-06 12:20:59
I speak twelve languages and tweet. Who's buying me a drink?
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:21:22
hablas y entiendes espaρol?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:21:35
I understand why we need to teach copyright law... But by following it...
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:21:52
You'd never get student vies like this
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:22:07
*vids
MNC (US) 2009-11-06 12:22:42
Really... Is this THAT impressive or the literacy of most 15 year olds?
Geek (AB) 2009-11-06 12:22:56
with the right tools, students can submit some amazing things...
Anton (ED) 2009-11-06 12:23:08
http://homepage.mac.com/torres21/TEST/ Marco Torres
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:23:28
Thanks Anton!
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 12:23:52
Yes!
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:24:47
If we teach the 3 e's we'd be creating life long learners
eagle1 (ab) 2009-11-06 12:25:38
yo entiendo espanol pero no mucho de estos textos en ingles
MNC (US) 2009-11-06 12:25:49
A factual, convincing presentation is much more than rhetoric and music. The RIGHT tools are key.
fluffy (ab) 2009-11-06 12:26:00
Assuming they want to learn in the first place...
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 12:26:13
the right tools and to use them the right way
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:26:24
Wha
fluffy (ab) 2009-11-06 12:26:41
students won't learn if the don't want to
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:26:46
We have to teach how the hamme drives nails, not just teach the hammer
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:26:53
What is true? Who's truth is it?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:27:13
Truth is a three edged sword
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 12:27:19
then is it not our job to make learning more interesting and ENGAGING for the students...that can be with the use of tech
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:27:33
hola Eagle!
eagle1 (ab) 2009-11-06 12:28:04
i said i understand spanish but not much of these texts in english...ie what is the point
MNC (US) 2009-11-06 12:28:11
What we're setting up is akin to junior sports players - encouraging so called variety / novel creations. Then , the pedestal is removed...
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 12:29:29
the math curriculum is moving in this direction so nicely
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:30:39
The intent and philosophy of a curriculum does not guarantee instructional changes or practices
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 12:30:49
we have to look at ourselves and reflect on our mind set of learning and teching
MNC (US) 2009-11-06 12:31:12
You know why kids are tech sponges
eagle1 (ab) 2009-11-06 12:31:45
what is scary is the role the monarchy plays in our democratic society
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 12:31:52
yea reflective teaching is KEY to learn to adapt to the students
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 12:32:06
you are absolutely right battelstar
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 12:32:12
lunch time!
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 12:32:33
Sid is hot
MNC (US) 2009-11-06 12:32:36
? They have all the time in the world to play at home! I drive - they play in the backseat. Then I rake leaves.
fluffy (ab) 2009-11-06 12:39:23
OHS is Sexy!
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 13:18:53
Ashley young, you are here? Where are you?
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:25:34
Is this over at 3?
fluffy (ab) 2009-11-06 13:26:17
knock knock
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 13:26:54
good lunch
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:27:02
who's there?
fluffy (ab) 2009-11-06 13:27:25
Broump
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:27:44
Broump who?
fluffy (ab) 2009-11-06 13:28:04
say it out loud a few times
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 13:29:42
ello
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 13:30:26
Just a friendly reminder that the backchannel transcript will be added to the public wiki. Perhaps we can limit our chat to the presentation
Jo (CA) 2009-11-06 13:31:18
Thanks Sid.
Crystal (CN) 2009-11-06 13:31:27
Thank you
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:31:49
Who just realized that?
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 13:34:10
I am typing right now... with my MIND!
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:42:09
Eric is becoming obsolete google is easier to find the same articles
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 13:42:23
does anyone have any of the Marcia Tate books?
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:42:49
Is that the brain lady?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 13:43:07
that is true, concordia is now trying to get their student teachers a alum pass to the lib for the ability to get the information still
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 13:43:11
yes, those "mathematics don't grow dendrite" books
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 13:43:27
check out side with the book depository guy
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 13:43:58
i saw them there, i was just wondering if any of you have purchased them in the past, if it's worth buying one
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 13:44:01
No way. ERIC and like databases have an immense amount of free info. vs pub
Jo (CA) 2009-11-06 13:44:30
"Worksheets Don't Grow Dendrites"
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 13:44:58
Convoluted info regardless of I.e google advanced search
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 13:45:05
Do you own it Jo?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 13:45:13
at least all of us CUCA grads will be able to access all the NEOS information as well with ERIC included
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 13:45:39
senorita u were supposed to meet me by the bran muffins, not the books
eagle1 (ab) 2009-11-06 13:46:51
robbie try to stay on task why not text her instead
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 13:47:00
:)
Bryan (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:47:01
I wish there was table-time worked into the day. He is sharing great information but i think some talk time would people process the information
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 13:47:32
That would be great Bryan
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 13:48:23
Agree
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:48:57
I take it the hallway monitors were out at lunch
fluffy (ab) 2009-11-06 13:49:03
O/
fluffy (ab) 2009-11-06 13:49:33
o/
fluffy (ab) 2009-11-06 13:50:34
Battle Tell Bryan he has some lunch stuck in his beard
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 13:50:58
Warlick is making some pts. Dialogue / collab essential BUT spend time perusing opinions? For how long? How many nworks?
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:51:36
Has anyone done any work on web 3.0 the hyperpersonalization of the web? Any thoughts?
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 13:51:49
twitter, blog, facebook, you tube, email, - who has got the time
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 13:52:27
you got it right
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 13:52:32
yea it is tough to find all the time to fit all that in...no I havent worked on 3.0
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 13:53:20
does anyone ever go outside and commune with nature
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:54:10
I took my dog for a walk at lunch. Does that count
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 13:54:25
E
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 13:54:43
can we trust others to make tose summaries for us
Battlestar gaylactica (Ab) 2009-11-06 13:55:04
What about a wikicurriculum?
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 13:55:26
oops those summaries of blogging
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 13:55:51
the
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 13:56:12
The e
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 13:56:42
The epsb share site is a great network opportunity
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 13:56:45
The EPSB share site is a g
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 13:56:56
THe
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 13:57:03
The EPSB share site is a great network.
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 13:59:11
Does anyone here use the Share site? It's a great network opportunity
eagle1 (ab) 2009-11-06 14:02:01
great going to see the magic of a blog
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 14:02:19
can you choose those in your personal networks or do people find you?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:03:28
I believe you can be found on some blogger sires, but most you have to be added to
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:03:31
sites*
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:04:14
perhaps my avatar can commune with nature while I write my book, my blog and my weekly article ;-)
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 14:05:06
impressive Miss!
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:05:10
am i the only one who doesnt know how to blog
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 14:05:20
Ya miss, you have it all figured out
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:05:52
not hard to blog, just takes time to do it, also tough to think of topics all the time I found
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:06:33
time - you said it
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 14:06:39
i find my ideas by reading other people's blogs
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:06:44
Wow sorry I was having some technical difficulty -did not mean to post that like 5 times
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:07:25
just click a button why is it never so simple
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:07:39
yea but then the time constrain comes into play again...if I had time to read all the blogs and respond I would be happy
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 14:07:52
what about a nice professional conversation face to face once in a while
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 14:08:21
blogging is extremely motivating for students
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 14:08:56
hard to have a professional conversation f2f if you are thousands of miles apart
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:09:22
The big problem for me is time. Our district has created a working environment that is so intensified (apple, 2004) that there is no time anymore for us educators to improve what we do. Now they want half of us to do the jobs of our admin as well. I quit our ILT this year so I can concentrate on being a good teacher
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 14:09:28
any great ideas for using blogs in DIV I?
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 14:10:10
good point battlestar
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:10:14
working on their goals, they can blog about how they are trying to reach their goal for that week
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 14:11:04
thanks!
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:12:57
np, it can just be a different way to write rather than in agendas or in a scribbler.
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:14:09
i dont care
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:14:33
about what miss?
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:15:06
cogdog
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:15:27
ya
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:16:32
I just feel like i have more important things to do like work, drive home,feed my family...
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:16:40
Or a weekly journal. Every Friday, book them in the lab. Write about their week. Or give them a prompt.
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 14:17:21
Agree w / Warlick
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:17:39
As a music teacher, may I also point out how important the arts are in education!
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:17:40
yep, we did that in our one class in concordia where we had a prompt every week and just wrote on it
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:17:56
Takes a few minutes to set up a blog, Miss. You can also get some older/well-organized students to moderate.
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:17:58
could be used just as their writting time to post their stories that they want to share
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:18:59
so what kind of foip do i need for kids to post and access other people`s blogs
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 14:19:16
any Grade 1 teachers?
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 14:20:25
that's what I was thinking Miss
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:21:16
Miss - - I make sure the kids only post their first names and do not mention school or location (or post photos). The moderators are also required to check the blogs occasionally and watch out for stuff like that.
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:21:50
but on blogger.com people have to be accepted to post and I believe read your blogs, so teachers could be the only one with access
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:21:58
There are also some privacy options you can activate. Using blogger, I made sure that the blog cannot be found by using a search engine.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:22:54
We made up a random class email address and chose a class password.
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:23:32
our kids can`t access you tube without teacher intervention how about reading other people`s written opinion online
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:24:43
so kat how did you learn to do those things
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 14:25:00
Blogs motivate
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:25:01
This video game has mediocre graphics
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:27:04
Miss--Mostly by online surfing, talking to colleagues, chatting with students...
Seρorita (AB) 2009-11-06 14:28:21
what grade do you teach kat?
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 14:28:41
some folks have left wonder why?
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 14:28:50
Testing - my posts are getting cut off.
angela (ab) 2009-11-06 14:30:03
our thoughts are exhaust...or pollution
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 14:30:25
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MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 14:30:39
Let's try again. Blogs allow teacher regulated annonimity = less student anxiety.
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 14:30:52
http://steelerooster.wordpress.com/ grade 7 poetry blog; open to the net and listed in search engines
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 14:31:21
800 poems submitted by 30 students in 6 weeks. 57000 visits
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:31:21
Teachers can integrate technology into their classroom as a separate class, an integrated part of the class, or an add-on. I try to use all three if I can.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:31:57
Senorita-Mostly Grade 7's and one 9 class.
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:32:43
How do we, as David said, integrate literacy into technology?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:33:25
online books is one way
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:34:08
So at the elementary level, we try to teach literacy through project-based learning?
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 14:34:23
what about just learning how to acess info on a website
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:35:25
Not only that--there are sites out there that have the story text as well as the audio (storynory.com, for example). Students who aren't great readers can read and listen--then you can have them answer questions on the text.
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 14:35:31
project based learning can work wonderfully with technology
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:36:09
can bloggers have anonymity (sp?) such as here? can we monitor inappropriate use ?
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:36:25
can the few spoil it for the many?
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:37:17
Yeah, I think we just have to think about how we can teach literacy skills within the context of using technology...
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:37:49
kat what are your experiences with blogging with your students? any problems?
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:38:46
deeeeelicious
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:40:07
Robbie--I like to nominate student monitors. Never had a problem with blogging with kids.
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:40:49
and if you did? what would be your course of action?
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:42:30
If I had a student that was behaving innapropriately, they would lose that opportunity to join the collective discussion that blogging offers. They would go back to a pen-and-paper journal.
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:42:47
I love blogging with students.... I do it all the time, and never had a problem
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 14:43:00
This sounds like it takes hours and hours what about family, real gardening and even keeping my house clean
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:43:33
I always make the guidelines very clear, Robbie, when introducing blogging to students.
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:43:55
You can't do it in one day lani.... You starts slow and build it up
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:44:01
It doesn't have to take hours -substitute these tools for more traditional paper-pencil-textbook activities
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:44:06
do you actually blog with students? what is the view of the district on this? didn't they have some advice regarding facebook, etc?
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:44:12
Lani--I kid you not--just takes minutes!
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:44:18
And get your network to do some of the work for you....
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:44:40
kat are you able to read all of the posts?
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:44:51
Who has seen the commercial for the new handheld wikireader? An amazing piece of tech
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:45:07
Kids catch on really quickly too -they were born in this world
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:45:18
The facebook regs were for personal use, and ive worked with the cfe a lot on blogging
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:45:43
Robbie--definitely. It helps that I'm a speed-reader. : )
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:45:51
Most of downtown love it
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 14:45:51
Grundy is right; no district policy exists re: student blogging
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:45:52
that wikireader looks interesting
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:46:12
information overload. i am learning how to use my whiteboard. chalk does not seem to work on it.
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:46:31
should there be a district policy regarding blogging?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:46:33
Again, it all co
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 14:46:36
there are good Acceptable Use Policies for studednt blogging on the net
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:46:42
Comes with time
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:46:50
LOL baby steps
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:47:46
can't wait for you guys to show me back at the ranch
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:48:35
Will do Robbie!
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 14:48:40
I moderate blogs on wordpress for students
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:49:03
I LOVE wordpress!!!
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:49:28
next level !!
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:49:35
Used to have my grade sixes do a news podcast every week
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:50:00
Who has time to show others? I don't. We should be provided more PAID time to discover this stuff. I have enough time in peeps these days to answer emails and that it.
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:50:09
what is wordpress
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:50:15
Good idea -they're gaining important communication skills
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:50:24
wordpress is a blogging site
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 14:50:42
know it all
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:51:06
Or a blogging program... I use the full downloaded version
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 14:51:09
it is the one he is using that is how I know
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 14:52:02
I have to 100% agree with Battlestar on his last post.
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:52:18
Battlestar, feel free to stop by highlands one day, I'll gladly help you
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:53:16
Do you think our district would pay us for our time?
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 14:53:41
100% agree with Battlestar. Need time to play.
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 14:53:59
please don't make me laugh out loud battlestar. my identity would be given away
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:54:08
Yes, it takes time.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 14:55:14
Battlestar--Resistance is futile. Submit to the blog!
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:55:21
Train information to come to us... I'd like to know how
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:55:25
My boss calls it pd.... So it's covered, bit I do t on my own time because it's importain
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:56:14
Who watched the plan? I loved it. FYI: I downloaded it for free
sandra (AB) 2009-11-06 14:56:51
pick one thing to begin with and start there
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:57:32
Put one foot infront of the other... And soon you're walking cross the floor
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 14:59:06
has anyone ever used pixton.com?
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 14:59:28
I teach for food not for love. I just happen to be good at what I do
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 15:01:30
Grundy--which website do you use for make-your-own-podcast?
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 15:02:20
I used audacity for themp3 and wordpress to blog
robbie (AB) 2009-11-06 15:02:21
flitta how do you get a school account for pixton
Grundy (Ab) 2009-11-06 15:03:51
10% power warning... And the sceen goes dark.... Happy netwoking!
Crystal (CN) 2009-11-06 15:04:08
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Crystal (CN) 2009-11-06 15:05:01
Sid et al, I believe that David has lost most of us.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 15:05:11
Grundy--thanks, I will check it out Audacity! Any issues with it?
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 15:05:26
Darn. : )
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 15:05:43
You can sign up for a free 30 day trial. There is a Pixton for Schools link on bottom right corner. I used pixton to make French conversation comics in grade 4.
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 15:07:08
Will check out Pixton too!
William (AB) 2009-11-06 15:07:11
I'm totally engaged thinking about possibilities
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 15:07:29
is this part the edge of our seat
William (AB) 2009-11-06 15:07:34
if our brains aren't being stretched and challenged, we're not learning
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 15:08:08
He is showing us some possbilities.
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 15:09:27
possibility yes but overwhelming and not practical without skills and timeto learn
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 15:09:57
what is this website david is using now?
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 15:10:24
I think it is still the prezi site
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 15:10:44
I would love to just get a list of these websites with a description of each and suggestions for how to use in the classroom
miss (ab) 2009-11-06 15:10:53
ie always thought of teachers as learners nothing new
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 15:10:58
Missy quit being pissy ;)
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 15:11:00
yes flitt
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 15:11:07
Check out the online handouts...he lists the resources there
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 15:11:31
THANKS DEHAAN
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 15:11:33
perfect. Thanks
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 15:13:19
Here's the crunch - students need complete access soft
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 15:14:28
Just checked out prezi website. Around $245 Canadian for an entire year. There's a 2 day free trial.
eagle1 (ab) 2009-11-06 15:15:42
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Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 15:16:29
but you can have some small things on prezi for free
eagle1 (ab) 2009-11-06 15:16:51
great phrase "he has no ceiling"
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 15:17:23
how often do we think of our students that way? (no ceiling)
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 15:17:24
Write script with rationale - set up
William (AB) 2009-11-06 15:18:08
I think he means that the walls of the classroom have been broken down. We're not limited to the traditional tools and text.
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 15:19:01
profound william
William (AB) 2009-11-06 15:19:42
I'm thinking that a couple of shifts in how I'm teaching would open up a lot of possibilities and engage a lot more students.
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 15:19:47
If you believe there aren't ceilings you are a product of social hegemony. Sorry to be pessimistic on that point.
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 15:20:26
Yeah, it
MNC2 (AA) 2009-11-06 15:20:34
Time to develop scripts with curricular rationale - set up video (props) - tape and edit with available software and hardware = miracle.
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 15:21:05
oops, it's all about motivating students to wonder, to seek, to create, and share
William (AB) 2009-11-06 15:23:01
totally. and providing them with some engaging tools to do this.
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 15:23:49
will our school boards support us?
Flitta (AB) 2009-11-06 15:25:11
This is the new AISI project -they're encouraging this!
Angela (AB) 2009-11-06 15:26:38
where do i get that i feel fine app he just showed?
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 15:26:46
how many teachers are on board with this?
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 15:27:05
From my old instructor at the university--He never understood why students kept coming up to him and asking "How did I lose marks on this?" He responded, "Why do you think you start at 100% and lose marks? You all start at 0% and work your way up." Don't ever assume!
deHaan (AB) 2009-11-06 15:27:20
whoa...collective consciousness visually represented!
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 15:27:44
The district is relying on us to do the work.
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 15:28:25
but not providing more time...
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 15:28:38
do we have the funding and class sizes condusive to this?
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 15:28:44
Time is money
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 15:29:36
yea so adding more things for us to work on in our already busy days, where are we to fit it in if we wont get paid for spending our -
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 15:29:55
everywaking moment trying to improve and not rest our minds to be fresh for the class
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 15:30:16
is the government on board with us with the top down curriculum? math is moving in this direction-good thing
Battlestar (Ab) 2009-11-06 15:31:29
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lani (ca) 2009-11-06 15:33:57
i guess if we can make a difference in our corner of the world is what counts
Kat (AB) 2009-11-06 15:48:53
My friends on Knitter--am going to log off! Thanks for the fine conversation and great ideas!
Lyall (CA) 2009-11-06 15:49:06
bye kat
lani (ca) 2009-11-06 15:49:44
happy playing on the net y'all